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March 06, 2012

Sirhan's lawyers rule out Kennedy's guard


Robert F. Kennedy's was assassinated in 1968. (UPI Photo/Files)

LOS ANGELES (UPI) -- Attorneys for Sirhan Sirhan, convicted in the 1968 assassination of Sen. Robert F. Kennedy in Los Angeles, say a second gunman fired the fatal shot.

William Pepper and Laurie Dusek say Sirhan did not kill Kennedy but have ruled out a security guard long suspected of playing a role in the slaying at the former Ambassador Hotel, CNN reported.

The attorneys, who say two guns were fired in the assassination, want a new trial for Sirhan, 67, who is serving a life sentence in California for the shooting. They've argued Sirhan was hypnotically influenced to fire shots at the senator as a diversion.

In a federal court filing last month, the New York attorneys said Thane Eugene Cesar, a security guard escorting Kennedy at the time he was shot, is not the real killer.

"It is my personal belief, at this time, that the security guard, Cesar, was not the second shooter," William Pepper said in e-mail to CNN.

Pepper alleges Cesar, however, may have been involved in an assassination conspiracy.

"We need an evidentiary hearing to deal with the second shooter and his identity," Pepper told CNN.

The defense attorneys say none of Sirhan's eight shots hit Kennedy. They argue the senator was struck by shots fired by a second gunman positioned behind the candidate, CNN said.

Comments :

Ricky


03/28/2014
... Sirhan Sirhan and the founder of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine were both Christians (or at least their partnes were). Not too many of them left in Palestine. That might not have been the case if an Ataturk or Pahlavi was in charge there, but under "liberation" the psychos will inherit the earth."This isn't very surprising, but it may complicate matters when talking about Palestinian terrorism as a uniquely "Islamic" phenomenon, as it is so often portrayed in the media by the talking heads who forget about the Palestinian Christians. Afif Safieh, a prominent diplomat representing the PLO is also a Palestinian Christian. Palestinian activist Rifat Odeh Kassis is another.While Palestinian Muslims seem to be more capable as individuals of the more extreme forms of terrorism like suicide-bombings, Palestinian Christians seem to be more likely to be leaders, activists, intellectuals or do behind the scenes type work. They are disproportionately among the "brains" of Palestinian terrorism and activism. Let the dumb Muslims do all the dirty work...Most of the Christian population of Palestine that was displaced during Israel's creation just gave up and left from wherever they ended up in 1948, and didn't get heavily involved in Palestinian liberation or activism with some notable exceptions(and the ones who are involved are often among the most influential, like Edward Said). In part this may be due to Palestinian Christians being more affluent than Palestinian Muslims, which implies the Palestinian Christians have higher IQs. In fact, throughout the Middle East the Arab Christians have long been more successful on average compared to Arab Muslims. Although only a small percentage of the Arab population of the Middle East, they have been disproportionately represented among Arab business leaders and intellectuals and played a pivotal role in the Pan-Arab movement. It's even said that Arab Christians tend to be fairer and more "western" in outlook, compared to Arab Muslims. The Arab Christians of Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine/Israel and some other countries represent a remnant of the original northern Semitic race(technically speaking, they aren't even "Arabs") that founded the most ancient civilizations in Mesopotamia. The Arab Islamic conquests(which originated in the Arabian peninsula) from 1,500 years ago of Mesopotamia, the Levant and beyond, introduced a lot of south Semitic genes from the Arabian peninsula(Lebanese Muslims are more likely to have these genes compared to Lebanese Christians, according to the latest genetic research), sometimes with a tincture of black African genes. Most of the Christians in these countries converted to Islam and mixed with the invaders, while the ones who remained Christian hardly mixed with the Muslim invaders and kept their north Semitic bloodline pure. I haven't seen any IQ studies of this, but I would not be surprised at all if the Coptic Christians of Egypt, the Assyrian and Chaldean Christians of Iraq, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon have higher IQs than the Muslims of the same country(I'm not a Christian BTW). Studies need to be done on this to see how IQ and culture influences the behavior of terrorists. So what may have influenced Major Hassan to commit his rampage may have been Palestinian nationalism combined with Islam(which may explain why he wasn't Egyptian-American, or Syrian-American, or Pakistani-American). So let's not underestimate the power of Palestinian nationalism/anti-Americanism in getting Palestinians to do violent or crazy things, regardless of their religious background. While most are Muslim, the George Habashes and Sirhan Sirhans among them may more easily slip through certain cracks due to their religion. That said, Palestinian nationalism combined with extremist Islam(Hamas) seems far more deadly than the Palestinian nationalism of Palestinian Christians, on average. Just rambling...

Fabian


03/29/2014
Hourst dit :Ce type a le ton d un partisan beuoacup plus que celui d un professeur d histoire. Les origines de ce vide9o sont de toute fae7on assez e9vocatrices et ses objectifs clairement partisans. Il y a un peu de tout et n importe quoi sur internet, autant s informer e0 des sources objectives.La me9thode, d abord, est assez se9lective.La question historique est rapidement re9gle9e, et assez simplement, en s arreatant sur les e9le9ments qui associent les juifs e0 la terre d Israel, et en levant le nez sur la nature re9solument conflictuelle des de9buts de ce petit e9tat. Il y a les juifs qui disent oui et les arabes qui disent non. Assez frugal comme analyse Il parle e9videmment de la de9claration de Balfour, cite tout ce qui peut potentiellement justifier une pre9sence juive en Palestine, alors que rien, factuellement et avant cette de9claration ne favorisait plutf4t les juifs que les arabes. Ce sont les vagues colonisatrices des juifs europe9ens qui sont venus gonfler le nombre et la cre9dibilite9 de la pre9sence juive au Moyen-Orient. Avant ces moments, il y avait relativement peu de monde dans la campagne palestinienne, bien que cette situation d origine se soit transforme9e en jeu e0 somme nulle vers les anne9es vingt, c est-e0-dire que pour un arrivant il devait y avoir un partant. il n y a qu e0 lire un peu des nouveaux historiens israe9liens pour constater les proce9de9s d e9vacuations qui ont e9te9s employe9s pour de9loger des populations de leurs terrains historiques. Il n y a pas que du joli.Le type parle de la pre9sence jordanienne est c est vrai que la Jordanie avait l ambition d annexer la cisjordanie et qu elle n e9tait pas sans attente de sa participation e0 la lutte contre Israel. c7a fait de la Jordanie un e9tat inte9resse9 et malicieux, e7a ne dit rien par contre sur Gaza et ce qui se passe re9ellement sur le terrain et dans les perceptions.Le travail de propagande d Israel consiste depuis longtemps e0 convaincre que ces territoires n appartenaient e0 personne, et strictement parlant, le9galement et depuis le retrait des anglais, on est proche de la ve9rite9 puisqu aucun document officiel ne certifie exactement ce qu est la Palestine Cela autorise donc Israel e0 jouer comme elle veut avec les frontie8res, et on comprends que leur avantage va dans ce sens.En gros, ce qu il dit, c es qu on ne devrait pas conside9rer Israel comme des occupants, puisque les territoires qu ils occupent n appartiennent juridiquement e0 personne. Il semble insensible e0 l ironie de constater que c est Israel qui fait le plus pour que cette incertitude persiste. Par surplus, la question pour bien du monde e0 commencer par les palestiniens, n est pas de savoir e0 quel point on peut officiellement et dans le sens le plus strict parler d occupation , mais de comprendre ce e0 quoi le terme renvoie, et e0 la pre9sence e9touffante et inique qu il de9signe. Il serait curieux de constater la re9action de ces propagandistes e0 l emploi des termes qui conviendraient mieux et plus since8rement e0 la partie que joue Israel et on peut se demander e0 quel point ils seraient e0 l aise avec un discours plus direct et honneate.Le proble8me de ce conflit, celui que cette vide9o perpe9tue, est celui de conside9rer la situation d un point de vue particulier et d interpre9ter les faits selon un angle partisan. Il ne donne aucun signe que la population qu on nomme palestinienne ait vraiment e9te9 prise en compte dans cette analyse et qu on l a conside9re9e autrement que du point de vue d une masse en re9volte et potentiellement nuisible e0 l e9quilibre de la re9gion. Des personnes comme vous et moi sont tasse9es et de9posse9de9es et on ne trouve nulle part trace d un commencement de critique e0 l endroit de l c9tat He9breux.La proce9dure franchement malhonneate de ce plouc, e0 moins qu il ne soit comple8tement abruti ou ignorant, est e9vidente. Si on lit l histoire en ne tenant jamais compte des agressions Israeliennes ou en faisant fi de ses re9elles motivations, il n y a e9videmment ni conflit e0 re9soudre ni situation litigieuse, mais des innocents e0 de9fendre et des extre9mistes barbus e0 ane9antir. Il parle des accords d Oslo, avec un petit dessin anime9 qui pre9sente Israel offrant naivement les moyens de leur c9tat aux palestiniens d Arafat, et insiste ensuite sur la mauvaise foi des palestiniens qui auraient litte9ralement dfb se tordre de gratitude. Quelle simplicite9. La ve9rite9 plus nuance9e et moins plaisante e0 expliquer dans un petit clip de 5 minutes aux objectif e9vidents, est que l c9tat d Israel a accorde9 e0 l OLP les pouvoirs qu il lui faisait plaisir de se de9partir et sans lesquels il pouvait tre8s bien continuer e0 vivre en contrf4lant la population palestinienne. La ve9rite9 plus nuance9e est que celle-ci s est ensuite vu opprime9e par deux pouvoirs, sur deux palliers diffe9rents, et que les relations entre Arafat et l c9tat d Israel se sont de9veloppe9es d une manie8re malsaine, l un e9tant, par sa de9pendance envers les bons vouloirs de l c9tat He9breux, soumis e0 ses de9cisions ultimes. Arafat ne fut plus vers la fin de sa vie qu un outil de plus dans les mains d Israel.Ces petits vide9os, fussent-ils aussi biaise9s, partiaux et incomplets, seraient amusants n eut e9te9 de ce sujet pas tre8s le9ger.

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